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TAR29 Finale is 6/1/2017
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Brian Smith
2017-03-27 19:02:45 UTC
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CBS announced all of their season finales today. The last show to air its finale will be TAR and that will happen on Thursday, June 1.

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=47388

FYI for a certain poster here: BB19 premieres on June 28.

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Brian
Ken McElhaney
2017-03-31 22:11:05 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
CBS announced all of their season finales today. The last show to air its finale will be TAR and that will happen on Thursday, June 1.
https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=47388
FYI for a certain poster here: BB19 premieres on June 28.
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Brian
Well, I'm sure that the "certain poster" is not me.

The original airdate for this season of TAR was April 21st, as indicated in another post. Brian responded to the post with this message,"I doubt it will into the summer. CBS will want it over with by the time BB19 starts. If they have an episode every week this should be very doable and probably good for TAR. The seasons where they have breaks after the first few episodes air kills the momentum of the show."

I pointed out in the following post that an April 21st opening meant that TAR would not finish until the end of June/early July if they followed their established 12-episode pattern with no breaks. So, his statement was incorrect on its face since he was talking about the April 21st opening.

Brian had no response and stayed silent as I assumed he looked at the calendar as well and saw the same thing.

Weeks afterward, CBS canceled a show which allowed TAR, a "mid-season replacement" series, to start almost a month earlier than planned. The idea that CBS "planned" at the time they announced TAR's airdate as April 21st to cancel another show and move it up goes against all network practices at least for the past 70+ years.

So, I'm not the "certain poster" Brian was referring thanks to the change in air date. I grant Brian far greater intelligence than to launch a cheap shot based on something no longer true, otherwise, that would make him look rather silly.

To whoever the "certain poster" is, you are still out there, so I'm glad you know when the next season of BB is at least.

Ken
Brian Smith
2017-03-31 22:49:49 UTC
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Post by Ken McElhaney
Post by Brian Smith
CBS announced all of their season finales today. The last show to air its finale will be TAR and that will happen on Thursday, June 1.
https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=47388
FYI for a certain poster here: BB19 premieres on June 28.
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Brian
Well, I'm sure that the "certain poster" is not me.
The original airdate for this season of TAR was April 21st, as indicated in another post. Brian responded to the post with this message,"I doubt it will into the summer. CBS will want it over with by the time BB19 starts. If they have an episode every week this should be very doable and probably good for TAR. The seasons where they have breaks after the first few episodes air kills the momentum of the show."
I pointed out in the following post that an April 21st opening meant that TAR would not finish until the end of June/early July if they followed their established 12-episode pattern with no breaks. So, his statement was incorrect on its face since he was talking about the April 21st opening.
Brian had no response and stayed silent as I assumed he looked at the calendar as well and saw the same thing.
Weeks afterward, CBS canceled a show which allowed TAR, a "mid-season replacement" series, to start almost a month earlier than planned. The idea that CBS "planned" at the time they announced TAR's airdate as April 21st to cancel another show and move it up goes against all network practices at least for the past 70+ years.
So, I'm not the "certain poster" Brian was referring thanks to the change in air date. I grant Brian far greater intelligence than to launch a cheap shot based on something no longer true, otherwise, that would make him look rather silly.
To whoever the "certain poster" is, you are still out there, so I'm glad you know when the next season of BB is at least.
Ken
I see nothing's changed. You conveniently forgot to include two key follow-up posts that make clear that my main point was TAR29 would be done before BB19 started and that was based on the April 21 start date for TAR. You were adamant that TAR would run over the start of BB19 by a few weeks into July.

I didn't respond at the time because the schedules had not been set but CBS's track record is that BB will not over lap with TAR or Survivor. Survivor premiere night in the fall and the season of finale of BB is the closest they come to overlapping. They happen on the same night for promotional purposes and Survivor airs first because that is it's regular timeslot.

The cancellation of the show Bill Paxton was on had nothing to do with my post. My original post stood on it's own at the time it was written and still does today.

I'm done with this thread and probably with posting here. Your constant twisting of what was written, adding in points and assumptions that were never made, goalpost moving, etc. defeat the purpose of why I want to post here. If I want irrational comments and mean-spirited insults hurled at me sprinkled in with a bit of show content analysis I'll go to a place like Sucks where not only is it expected, they do a much better job.

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Brian
Ken McElhaney
2017-04-01 02:42:59 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Post by Ken McElhaney
Post by Brian Smith
CBS announced all of their season finales today. The last show to air its finale will be TAR and that will happen on Thursday, June 1.
https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=47388
FYI for a certain poster here: BB19 premieres on June 28.
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Brian
Well, I'm sure that the "certain poster" is not me.
The original airdate for this season of TAR was April 21st, as indicated in another post. Brian responded to the post with this message,"I doubt it will into the summer. CBS will want it over with by the time BB19 starts. If they have an episode every week this should be very doable and probably good for TAR. The seasons where they have breaks after the first few episodes air kills the momentum of the show."
I pointed out in the following post that an April 21st opening meant that TAR would not finish until the end of June/early July if they followed their established 12-episode pattern with no breaks. So, his statement was incorrect on its face since he was talking about the April 21st opening.
Brian had no response and stayed silent as I assumed he looked at the calendar as well and saw the same thing.
Weeks afterward, CBS canceled a show which allowed TAR, a "mid-season replacement" series, to start almost a month earlier than planned. The idea that CBS "planned" at the time they announced TAR's airdate as April 21st to cancel another show and move it up goes against all network practices at least for the past 70+ years.
So, I'm not the "certain poster" Brian was referring thanks to the change in air date. I grant Brian far greater intelligence than to launch a cheap shot based on something no longer true, otherwise, that would make him look rather silly.
To whoever the "certain poster" is, you are still out there, so I'm glad you know when the next season of BB is at least.
Ken
I see nothing's changed. You conveniently forgot to include two key follow-up posts that make clear that my main point was TAR29 would be done before BB19 started and that was based on the April 21 start date for TAR.
"Two key follow-up posts"? Where? They were not in the same thread as your post following mine. They are not "follow-up" if they are in different threads.

According to the calendar if TAR29 began on April 21st, it would end either June 30th or July 7th given the 12-episode run. So, the calendar says you are wrong, not me.
Post by Brian Smith
You were adamant that TAR would run over the start of BB19 by a few weeks into July.
No, here is what I said;

"A 12-episode season starting on April 21st with no breaks will end on July 7th. Since the first episode is a two-hour special, it's possible that the season will only last 11 weeks which means it will end on June 30th. However, it is not confirmed that the two-hour show will consist of two legs of the race."

How is June 30th or July 7th a "few weeks into July"?
Post by Brian Smith
I didn't respond at the time because the schedules had not been set but CBS's track record is that BB will not over lap with TAR or Survivor. Survivor premiere night in the fall and the season of finale of BB is the closest they come to overlapping. They happen on the same night for promotional purposes and Survivor airs first because that is it's regular timeslot.
In the same post, I cited the "Big Brother Network" that used a CBS PR that Big Brother was anticipated to begin in late June.
http://bigbrothernetwork.com/big-brother-19-returns-cbs-tv-summer-2017/

So, you had the TAR start date, you had the anticipated BB start date (which turned out to be accurate), and you had a calendar.

What more did you need?
Post by Brian Smith
The cancellation of the show Bill Paxton was on had nothing to do with my post. My original post stood on it's own at the time it was written and still does today.
You may want to look at your post and then my post again. If you are interested in what it actually says.
Post by Brian Smith
I'm done with this thread and probably with posting here. Your constant twisting of what was written, adding in points and assumptions that were never made, goalpost moving, etc. defeat the purpose of why I want to post here.
I posted your full quote and I responded exactly to that.
Post by Brian Smith
If I want irrational comments and mean-spirited insults hurled at me sprinkled in with a bit of show content analysis I'll go to a place like Sucks where not only is it expected, they do a much better job.
This is not the first time you have threatened to quit posting here, so I doubt it will be the last given your track record.

Just think, if you hadn't tried to be cute and imply that I was that "certain poster", you never would have been called out for what you said.
Michael Black
2017-04-01 02:26:58 UTC
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Post by Ken McElhaney
Post by Brian Smith
CBS announced all of their season finales today. The last show to air its finale will be TAR and that will happen on Thursday, June 1.
https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=47388
FYI for a certain poster here: BB19 premieres on June 28.
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Brian
Well, I'm sure that the "certain poster" is not me.
The original airdate for this season of TAR was April 21st, as indicated
in another post. Brian responded to the post with this message,"I doubt
it will into the summer. CBS will want it over with by the time BB19
starts. If they have an episode every week this should be very doable
and probably good for TAR. The seasons where they have breaks after the
first few episodes air kills the momentum of the show."
As I recall, I said something about how it would go into summer. I was
thinkig about not wanting to be tied down the later it gets, wanting to be
out in the warm weather.

But it just made sense. Unless they cut the number of episodes, if you
have a late start it's going to run later. I guess if they had some
weeks of two hour episodes, they could get through it faster. But it's
like a law of physics, you can't change things on a whim, and if you start
late, you run into summer.

I thought April 21st was significantly later than we usually see the
start, even March 30th seems late. Yet knowing the dates, June 1st, or
even three weeks later is ending sooner than I expected.

Michael
Ken McElhaney
2017-04-01 02:47:24 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
Post by Ken McElhaney
Post by Brian Smith
CBS announced all of their season finales today. The last show to air its finale will be TAR and that will happen on Thursday, June 1.
https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=47388
FYI for a certain poster here: BB19 premieres on June 28.
--
Brian
Well, I'm sure that the "certain poster" is not me.
The original airdate for this season of TAR was April 21st, as indicated
in another post. Brian responded to the post with this message,"I doubt
it will into the summer. CBS will want it over with by the time BB19
starts. If they have an episode every week this should be very doable
and probably good for TAR. The seasons where they have breaks after the
first few episodes air kills the momentum of the show."
As I recall, I said something about how it would go into summer. I was
thinkig about not wanting to be tied down the later it gets, wanting to be
out in the warm weather.
But it just made sense. Unless they cut the number of episodes, if you
have a late start it's going to run later. I guess if they had some
weeks of two hour episodes, they could get through it faster. But it's
like a law of physics, you can't change things on a whim, and if you start
late, you run into summer.
I thought April 21st was significantly later than we usually see the
start, even March 30th seems late. Yet knowing the dates, June 1st, or
even three weeks later is ending sooner than I expected.
Michael
Michael, your observation was completely correct and backed up by the calendar. If TAR has started on April 21st, it would have run at least to June 30th (assuming a two-episode, single-night opening) or July 7th for the full 12 episode run.

Brian was implying that the "certain poster" was me.

I apologize for getting into the "mud" again, but Brian's cutie-pie remark was just too much for me to pass up. Now that I responded, Brian has threatened to quit this group for at least the second time ... maybe he'll keep his word this time. ;)

Ken

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