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Tonight, tonight, TAR29 premieres tonight
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Frosty
2017-03-30 16:20:02 UTC
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On your mark, get set, drive safely, GO!
Michael Black
2017-03-30 17:04:04 UTC
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Post by Frosty
On your mark, get set, drive safely, GO!
But what if it's a crash right out of the gate? All those couples who
just met, maybe they'll be so disorganized that it will crumble
immediately.

I thought I read that there's some process to match up the teams.

But imagine if they just got to choose by themselves? "She looks hot,
I'll go with her". Unless they all have some time together, visuals are
all that they can make a decision on.

Michael
Brian Smith
2017-03-30 20:46:48 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
Post by Frosty
On your mark, get set, drive safely, GO!
But what if it's a crash right out of the gate? All those couples who
just met, maybe they'll be so disorganized that it will crumble
immediately.
I thought I read that there's some process to match up the teams.
But imagine if they just got to choose by themselves? "She looks hot,
I'll go with her". Unless they all have some time together, visuals are
all that they can make a decision on.
Michael
No way would the producers and CBS allow the contestants to match themselves up. Everyone will get paired based on their psych evals, etc. to cause the most drama and entertainment, and hopefully maximize ratings.

It's been awhile since TAR has excited me preseason but this one does for some reason. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.

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Brian
Dnrapp
2017-03-31 12:46:50 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Post by Michael Black
Post by Frosty
On your mark, get set, drive safely, GO!
But what if it's a crash right out of the gate? All those couples who
just met, maybe they'll be so disorganized that it will crumble
immediately.
I thought I read that there's some process to match up the teams.
But imagine if they just got to choose by themselves? "She looks hot,
I'll go with her". Unless they all have some time together, visuals are
all that they can make a decision on.
Michael
No way would the producers and CBS allow the contestants to match themselves up. Everyone will get paired based on their psych evals, etc. to cause the most drama and entertainment, and hopefully maximize ratings.
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Brian
Looks like you got that wrong.
Michael Black
2017-03-31 16:42:21 UTC
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Post by Dnrapp
Post by Brian Smith
Post by Michael Black
Post by Frosty
On your mark, get set, drive safely, GO!
But what if it's a crash right out of the gate? All those couples who
just met, maybe they'll be so disorganized that it will crumble
immediately.
I thought I read that there's some process to match up the teams.
But imagine if they just got to choose by themselves? "She looks hot,
I'll go with her". Unless they all have some time together, visuals are
all that they can make a decision on.
Michael
No way would the producers and CBS allow the contestants to match themselves up. Everyone will get paired based on their psych evals, etc. to cause the most drama and entertainment, and hopefully maximize ratings.
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Brian
Looks like you got that wrong.
Yes.

SO they had a chance to see each other in operation, and then got to pick.
And just like any game of baseball, someone had to be last, chosen not
because they were chosen, but because they were last.

It is interesting to note that while the first one picked another man, the
rest of the teams paired up as man/woman, except the last pair since two
women were left. They all had some reason, but I can't help but wonder if
"dating" wsa int he back of some of their minds.

I also found it interesting that Phil was right there in Panama as the
teams did things. What was different that allowed that? Or is there a
change so that will continue to happen?

Michael
Loren Pechtel
2017-03-31 20:43:25 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
SO they had a chance to see each other in operation, and then got to pick.
And just like any game of baseball, someone had to be last, chosen not
because they were chosen, but because they were last.
It is interesting to note that while the first one picked another man, the
rest of the teams paired up as man/woman, except the last pair since two
women were left. They all had some reason, but I can't help but wonder if
"dating" wsa int he back of some of their minds.
I also found it interesting that Phil was right there in Panama as the
teams did things. What was different that allowed that? Or is there a
change so that will continue to happen?
While performance would be my first criteria, given rougly equal
choices I would pick the female (note: I'm male, the victim of a name
that has changed gender since I was born.) The race is a situation
where a diversity of skills is an advantage, choose someone as unlike
you as possible.
Michael Black
2017-04-01 02:14:17 UTC
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Post by Loren Pechtel
Post by Michael Black
SO they had a chance to see each other in operation, and then got to pick.
And just like any game of baseball, someone had to be last, chosen not
because they were chosen, but because they were last.
It is interesting to note that while the first one picked another man, the
rest of the teams paired up as man/woman, except the last pair since two
women were left. They all had some reason, but I can't help but wonder if
"dating" wsa int he back of some of their minds.
I also found it interesting that Phil was right there in Panama as the
teams did things. What was different that allowed that? Or is there a
change so that will continue to happen?
While performance would be my first criteria, given rougly equal
choices I would pick the female (note: I'm male, the victim of a name
that has changed gender since I was born.) The race is a situation
where a diversity of skills is an advantage, choose someone as unlike
you as possible.
That's what many said, I'm not sure they really thought that or just used
it to explain things. If that wsa the real criteria, I'm actually
surprised that they saw the value, rather than just pick the next strong
one over.

Michael
Nancy Dooley
2017-04-01 00:25:22 UTC
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Also interesting is that the final pair, the two women who were left, may indeed
turn out to be the toughest, smartest team. If I were a man, I would have picked that
6' woman in a heartbeat.

N.
Michael Black
2017-04-01 02:21:57 UTC
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Post by Nancy Dooley
Also interesting is that the final pair, the two women who were left, may indeed
turn out to be the toughest, smartest team. If I were a man, I would have picked that
6' woman in a heartbeat.
I was thinking height wise they did seem a mismatch. But I was thinking
one was "short", rather than one was taller than average.

I forget who that team's members are, but I was certainly hoping they
didn't get eliminated last night.

One interesting thing is that there may be no "deadweight" this time. If
contestants have to come as part of an existing relationships, one is
likely more interested than the other, and the other comes because they
are needed for the team, rather than because they really want to do the
show. We've seen some examples of that in the past, though maybe not
recently.

But also, many of the contestants seemed to come from professions where
they are required to be healthy and/or strong, firemen and soldiers and
cops. The show may have gone looking in those areas, more free since the
contestants didn't have to talk a sibling or spouse into doing the show.
But may also equalize the contestants, since many of them are "alpha"

Michael
Loren Pechtel
2017-04-01 16:37:19 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
One interesting thing is that there may be no "deadweight" this time. If
contestants have to come as part of an existing relationships, one is
likely more interested than the other, and the other comes because they
are needed for the team, rather than because they really want to do the
show. We've seen some examples of that in the past, though maybe not
recently.
Sort of. We still have deadweight but I don't think we have any
strong + deadweight teams. Look at how much spread in performance
there was at the detour, not to mention multiple teams making major
navigation errors.
Post by Michael Black
But also, many of the contestants seemed to come from professions where
they are required to be healthy and/or strong, firemen and soldiers and
cops. The show may have gone looking in those areas, more free since the
contestants didn't have to talk a sibling or spouse into doing the show.
But may also equalize the contestants, since many of them are "alpha"
I do agree we have more alphas than normal. I doubt they needed to go
looking in those areas though--the demand was probably there just
blocked by a lack of partners.

I do expect the final episode to be more luck than anything else as
there should be multiple very strong teams in it.

I also see a second advantage to people like
cops/firemen/soldiers--they're in professions where you have to keep
going. I think we will see fewer teams get overwhelmed and fall by
the wayside. Over the years we've seen a lot of otherwise good teams
fall apart in the last third of the race.
Frosty
2017-04-15 05:32:40 UTC
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Post by Michael Black
I also found it interesting that Phil was right there in Panama as the
teams did things. What was different that allowed that? Or is there a
change so that will continue to happen?
Little late in catching up but i made it.

Phil has been at events before teams arrived. I can vaguely remember the
first time it happened and the teams said "Hey there's Phil!"

That was couple years ago.

Definitely the all-guy team has the physical advantage and that might be
enough.

I would have preferred more random pairings but this will do for the
moment. Good cast lineup.

Pulling for the happy meter team even if she may have an anger
management problem after puliing out the faux punch.

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