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By Christopher Rocchio, 03/05/2007

It was a thrill for reality television aficionados David Conley Jr. and his
wife Mary when they competed on the tenth season of The Amazing Race, so
imagine how they must have felt when they learned they'd be giving it
another go during the currently airing All-Stars edition. While they may
have been the third team eliminated during The Amazing Race's eleventh
installment, they have no regrets.

On Monday, David, a 33-year-old coal miner, and Mary, a 32-year-old
homemaker, talked to Reality TV World about their feud with Charla and
Mirna; their respect for Dustin and Kandice; and just what it felt like to
be considered all-stars.

Reality TV World: During your pre-race interviews, you talked about
wanting to race this race differently (not depend on others) -- what did you
mean and what was your All-Stars strategy?

Mary: I wanted to prove to America that we could run this race on our own.
I kind of got tired of reading on [Internet websites] that, "Dave and Mary
can't do it on their own." We wanted to prove to these people because I
really... I'm a big fan of the show just like they are and I wanted to prove
to them that we could run this race on our own.




Reality TV World: Do you think you proved that?

Mary: Oh yeah. We have no regrets about how we ran the race.

Reality TV World: Did you do anything different to prepare for All-Stars?

David: Well, equipment-wise. We went out and bought waterproof shoes, the
best backpacks we could buy, the zip-off pants, the Under Armour clothes...
We was very well prepared for the All-Stars race.

Reality TV World: Pre-game alliances and subsequent out-of game
relationships have played a big part in other all-star editions of reality
shows. Did you plan on trying to ally with any of the teams you know?

Mary: No. We didn't want to form an alliance.

Reality TV World: Mary, during the first leg you lied to the beauty queens
about flight information and said you specifically didn't want to help them
and want them out. Why was that?

Mary: Because going into the race I was upset that [Dustin Seltzer and
Kandice Pelletier] were chosen from our season. I really wanted -- I really
thought -- it should have been [Erwin Cho and Godwin Cho]. At that point I
wanted [Dustin and Kandice] out. I don't know what came over me. I don't
know why I lied to them. It was ridiculous of me. But we got to know them
this season. I understand why they were chosen as all-stars. I'm backing
them all the way. Dustin and Kandice to win buddy.

Reality TV World: Why do you think Dustin and Kandice were chosen for
All-Stars? Were there some characteristics they had that you just noticed
during All-Stars?

Mary: No... they are the most competitive people on the race today.
David: Well, female team...
Mary: It don't matter.
David: Yeah, they're the most competitive female team of any season.
Mary: For me if there's any female team that can win, it could be [Dustin
and Kandice] this year.

Reality TV World: David, who do you think the most competitive team is
overall?

David: Overall? Well I'd have to say Rob and Amber [Mariano] overall.

Reality TV World: Is there a reason for that?

David: Most people have watched Rob on Survivor: Marquesas, Survivor:
All-Stars... he's got his new show Against All Odds. He's been on [Sci Fi
Investigates], he's been on The Amazing Race. So I mean we've watched him
on all these shows and you know he likes to try to get inside people's
heads.
Mary: And he don't quit.
David: And he won't quit. For me, really, it ain't Rob. He couldn't do
none of this without Amber. You know it is the team. To me, they was the
most competitive team.

Reality TV World: At the beginning of the second leg of the race, you
helped Charla Baklayan Faddoul and Mirna Hindoyan pull their vehicle out of
the mud. What prompted you to decide to help them?

Mary: That's just us. I don't care if it's our worst enemy stuck in the
mud, I would have helped them. I'm not somebody who's ever going to leave
somebody who's down. There's other things that I would have changed. I
mean, I wouldn't have told her Chuquicamata [was the answer to the second
leg's Roadblock challenge]. There's a lot of things on that leg I would
have changed. But no... we don't regret pulling them out of the mud.

Reality TV World: Following that Detour, you passed Charla and Mirna
arguing with Dustin and Kandice on the way to the Pit Stop and seemed to be
excited you were no longer in last. However based on the alliance you
previously formed, why didn't you stop to help them when you saw them on the
side of the road?

Mary: What happened between leg one and leg two...I don't know. Let's just
say [Charla and Mirna] know how they played the game. And I know how they
played the game. And 10 other teams know how they played the game.

Reality TV World: So are you still harboring hard feelings towards Charla
and Mirna?

Mary: I just don't like them as people. It's nothing to do with them
passing me [on the way to the second Pit Stop]. I don't know why they
wanted to edit it like that because it's nothing to do with that. I just
don't like them as people, and why would I want to be around somebody I
don't like as a person.

Reality TV World: Did you like them before the race or was this something
that developed during All-Stars?

Mary: Well I mean I didn't not like anybody before the race.
David: We didn't know them before the race.
Mary: We didn't know them. I tried to like them because it was pretty sad
during the first leg... nobody wants to talk to Charla and Mirna.
David: We tried to help them along. But after we saw the way they are...
Mary: The way they played the game out...
David: ...the way they talked to other racers and just the way they talked
to cab drivers...
Mary: ...they were rude.
David: We just didn't like it.

Reality TV World: You saw the first time they appeared on The Amazing Race,
right?

Mary: Yeah.

Reality TV World: While competing during the second leg's Detour, Mary you
appeared to have a hard time working by hand. When David tried to help you,
you said "Whatever." You ended up being the last team to finish the
challenge after a foreman repeated what David said. Why didn't you listen
to your husband's advice?

Mary: I did my best on that truck. I mean wow. He's right here you can
ask him... I worked just as hard as he did on that truck.

Reality TV World: So David?

Mary: He's got stronger arms then I've got. He can tighten [the bolts].
He did all the tightening. I tightened them as far as I could do it but
then you still got to really screw it in there. And he's that much stronger
than me. I pulled my weight on that leg...
David: What a lot of people don't know about the tire and truck is when we
got there, we were in third or fourth place. We could have chose the
end-loader, which I've run many of... I could run one right now. But when
we went to look at it, the distance from the end-loader to the gravel, and
the time it takes to make five or six trips, I thought I could put a tire on
faster. Which I did. I put the tire on twice which the TV didn't show.
Mary and I put it on the first time and we didn't have all the lock
washers... we really didn't read all the additional information right. If
we would have put all the lock washers on right the first time... we would
have smoked everybody and had a bigger lead. But it was my fault. I should
have known better any ways that it goes on a certain way.

Reality TV World: David, was it aggravating already being in the back of
the pack and getting lost leaving the airport in Puerto Montt?

David: There's a lot of would of's, should of's and could of's... because
if we really wanted to in Puerto Montt we had a local who was going to take
us anywhere we wanted to go. But he needed us to drive him back to his
house first, which would have been 15 or 20 minutes out of the way.
Mary: And I said, "David I don't want to be a Duke and Lauren [Marcoccio].
I don't want to take somebody home and come in last."
David: You know we had an opportunity there. And then when we left the
airport I drove in a circle around... I didn't get out of the airport right.
And when we was driving to Puerto Montt, the local had told us to keep
driving around the ocean... that the road keeps going around. We were
driving and we were ahead of all the teams on the back of the airplane...
(pause). For some reason the ocean got away from us and we saw a road going
by the ocean, so we turned around and went back. When we did that then the
Cha Chas [Ozwald Mendez and Danilo Jimenez], beauty queens and Teri and Ian
all passed us.

Reality TV World: You then missed the sign for Petrohue, even though David
thought he saw it. Mary you persisted he keep driving and you eventually got
directions. Do you think the decision to not turn around at the sign hurt
you?

David: It might have. But at that time we were really mentally fatigued...
we were tired. We had slept maybe an hour, an hour-and-a-half on the
airport floor in three days...
Mary: And they showed every time we passed a sign him saying, "Oh! Is that
Petrohue?" So I'm still not convinced that he saw that sign. He didn't see
that sign. I don't know how he could have seen that sign if he was driving.
Every sign that we passed he thought it was Petrohue.
David: I was falling asleep driving. She was trying to stay awake. We were
really, really tired at the time.

Reality TV World: At the third leg's Roadblock David, you chose to
participate despite not liking water. Why didn't you do it Mary? Do you
think it would have made a difference?

Mary: Because when we got there, it was Amber and Danielle doing it...
Uchenna was doing it... and Teri was doing it. They were all girls... even
the Cha Chas. Except for Uchenna and Danny... and [Joe] Guido. I mean we
were there with all of them. But you've got time and you get the clue and
you can look around and see these girls are struggling, the guys are doing
awesome. We were in this game to win... and that's the only way to catch-up
time was for [David] to do it because he's much stronger and much more
physically able to do things than me.

Reality TV World: How was the white water rafting experience?

David: It was really scary. I mean at first I was excited, and then when I
started getting in the boat, going down [the river]... I was scared.
Mary: I was scared to death.

Reality TV World: Do you think it was adrenaline that got you through it?

Mary: No. Once I got on that boat the guide told me, "You better listen to
me if you want to stay up." And you know I listened to him... so I did
everything he told me to do because I wasn't about to die.

Reality TV World: Being such huge reality television fans, how did it feel
to be considered all-stars for The Amazing Race?

David: Oh it was awesome. We were really honored to be chosen.
Mary: We didn't understand it.

Reality TV World: So you guys didn't consider yourselves all-stars?

Mary: Right. We didn't consider ourselves all-stars. But I consider [John
Vito Pietanza and Jill Aquilino] and [Kevin O'Connor and Drew Feinberg]
all-stars and we beat them. I think we underestimated ourselves a lot... a
lot of teams can be considered as all-stars.

Reality TV World: Do you think that being such a fan overwhelmed or
distracted you from focusing on the competitive aspect of the race?

Mary: No. I think us being fans, we kind of knew these people more than
they knew themselves, you know?

Reality TV World: How did you guys end up being part of the All-Stars?

Mary: [The Amazing Race producers] called us. They were like, "We're going
to do an All-Stars season, do you want to be part of it?" We said, "Yes"
and I started crying because we were truly honored to be given the chance.
David: We got the chance once. And then we got it again...
Mary: The chance to go around the world twice.

Reality TV World: When did you find out who you'd be racing against?

Mary: We didn't find out until...
David: The starting city.

Reality TV World: Anybody surprised to see or not see?

Mary: Honestly, we didn't expect [Eric Sanchez and Danielle Turner] to be
there because Danielle and Eric were not a team [on their first race
together]. So it was hard to see them because who would ever pick them as
an all-star team. I thought that [The Amazing Race's Freddy Holliday and
Kendra Bentley from the sixth season] or... I mean there's so many earlier
season teams...
David: The hippies [The Amazing Race 9 winners BJ Averell and Tyler
Macniven], they should have been there.
Mary: They could do All-Stars 20 times and still somebody would be left out
because there's so many awesome teams out there who just as well could have
been all-stars.

Reality TV World: Who would you like to see win?

David: We would like to see Dustin and Kandice win All-Stars.

Reality TV World: Wow. Is it for the new respect you have for them?

David: We have the new respect, plus they're representin' [Season] 10.
Mary: I think they could be the first all-female team to win.

Reality TV World: Anybody you wouldn't want to see win? Is it Charla and
Mirna?

Mary: It's Charla and Mirna... all the way. The sooner they get out, the
better the race will be.

Reality TV World: How was Sequesterville?

David: Awesome. I've never been in paradise with somebody waitin' on me
hand and foot. It's a dream come true. You don't get that everyday.
Mary: You never get that (laughing).
David: Yeah I never get it, but I mean it's just something you dream of.
It was awesome... it was really awesome.
Mary: The people, and just watching the sunset over the ocean, watching it
rise... it was just all beautiful.

Reality TV World: Do you think participating in The Amazing Race for a
second time helped strengthen your relationship?

David: We're still Mary and Dave. I don't think we've really changed at
all.
Mary: I think he realizes that I can do things and I realized that he's the
rock of this relationship. That's the only thing that has changed: We've
figured out our roles in life.

Reality TV World: How's life currently treating you -- have you guys gotten
that house and car The View gave you last November?

Mary: We do have the truck, but the house... we don't own the land that
we're on... it's [David's] daddy's land, so it's not ours. So we're in the
process of buying our own land in order to have the house built.

Reality TV World: So are you guys planning to follow through with [The View
co-host] Rosie O'Donnell's request that you "pay it forward" and give your
trailer to somebody who could use it?

Mary: Yeah. We're giving it to my sister-in-law Leann... she has three
kids, my brother left her when they were babies. We've helped her to raise
[the kids]...
David: She's a single mother who works -- most of the time six days a
week -- and she pays rent...
Mary: The kids don't even have their own bedroom. Now we can see them
grow-up in our home.
David: We just think they really need it. They need a break.

Reality TV World: Do you have a time frame for when you'll be in your new
house?

Mary: I'm hoping this week or next week we'll know what piece of land to
buy... and what [hou
se] design for sure... and they'll start building it.

Reality TV World: What reality shows are you guys currently watching?

Mary: Oh my goodness... there's so many... Grease: You're the One that I
Want I think is awesome. It's pretty bad that The Amazing Race is in the
same time slot. So it's hard on me, because I was really rooting for [Derek
"Wholesome Danny" Keeling], but I love The Amazing Race. Survivor...
American Idol... I can keep on namin' them.
David: [Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader?]... I love that one.
Mary: I love that one... I love 1 vs. 100, I love Deal or No
Deal...(laughing)
CE Whisper
2007-03-07 06:12:13 UTC
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On Mar 6, 12:30 pm, "Barbara L Sherrill"
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/interview--david-and-mary-conley-v...
By Christopher Rocchio, 03/05/2007
Mary: I wanted to prove to America that we could run this race on our own.
Didn't happen
I kind of got tired of reading on [Internet websites] that, "Dave and Mary
can't do it on their own."
The vicious internet was right, is right.
David: Well, equipment-wise. We went out and bought waterproof shoes, the
best backpacks we could buy, the zip-off pants, the Under Armour clothes...
We was very well prepared for the All-Stars race.
It ain't the arrow, its the indian.
David: And he won't quit. For me, really, it ain't Rob. He couldn't do
none of this without Amber.
A sign of brightness amonst the void. Yes, Rob needs Amber more than
Amber needs Rob. Rob knows this, he knows Amber knows this, and thus
I predict a long and happy marriage between two people who just happen
to really love each other. Much like your own marriage David, in all
ways.
Reality TV World: At the beginning of the second leg of the race, you
helped Charla Baklayan Faddoul and Mirna Hindoyan
Who??? Oh, Team Pure Heart
have changed. But no... we don't regret pulling them out of the mud.
And that young Mary, is why you must lose!
Pure Heart would have left you to rot. Its a race not a survival
show. Survivor isn't even a survival show.
Mary: I just don't like them as people. It's nothing to do with them
passing me [on the way to the second Pit Stop]. I don't know why they
wanted to edit it like that because it's nothing to do with that. I just
don't like them as people, and why would I want to be around somebody I
don't like as a person.
Well said, well spoken.
Mary: We didn't know them. I tried to like them because it was pretty sad
during the first leg... nobody wants to talk to Charla and Mirna.
David: We tried to help them along. But after we saw the way they are...
Mary: The way they played the game out...
David: ...the way they talked to other racers and just the way they talked
to cab drivers...
Mary: ...they were rude.
David: We just didn't like it.
Most of us don't either. I can only imagine the hell of experiencing
Pure Heart in person.
David: I was falling asleep driving. She was trying to stay awake. We were
really, really tired at the time.
Very dangerous. Perhaps more mandatory rest periods are in order.
Lets make it a race not a Kill the Man competition.
David: It was really scary. I mean at first I was excited, and then when I
started getting in the boat, going down [the river]... I was scared.
Mary: I was scared to death.
Reality TV World: Do you think it was adrenaline that got you through it?
No, it was gravity
David: Oh it was awesome. We were really honored to be chosen.
Mary: We didn't understand it.
I um, I don't either. I'm not alone. No offense but you all were
chosen 'cause ya'all is
like, ya know, ya all get it right? I think you did your best, you
seemed to learn from your first run,
but there is no way you are all star material. Sadly the TV world saw
you as cheap entertainment.
Mary: Right. We didn't consider ourselves all-stars. But I consider [John
Vito Pietanza and Jill Aquilino] and [Kevin O'Connor and Drew Feinberg]
I don't know about Vito and Jill, but Mary, Mary, listen to me: my 70
something year old parents could
beat Kevin and Drew. They were not all star material, and the worst
casting choice of the show.
Mary: No. I think us being fans, we kind of knew these people more than
they knew themselves, you know?
You showed such promise a few questions ago Mary, but its clear you
are NUTS.
Reality TV World: Do you think participating in The Amazing Race for a
second time helped strengthen your relationship?
David: We're still Mary and Dave. I don't think we've really changed at
all.
Nope, didn't change you at all. You are an honest to goodness happily
married couple
who love each other and dont' need no race to "strengthen" anything
about that.
For that, I like you very much.
alooo
2007-03-07 07:18:52 UTC
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Post by CE Whisper
I don't know about Vito and Jill, but Mary, Mary, listen to me: my 70
something year old parents could
beat Kevin and Drew. They were not all star material, and the worst
casting choice of the show.
The term is "All Stars," not "Greatest Competitors Ever." Like them or not,
Kevin/Drew and David/Mary were "stars" during their seasons so that
qualifies them. Overall, I think they did a great job casting teams that
were very memorable, and most were solid competitors their first time out.
No real duds in the bunch, unlike Amber (Survivor) and Erika (Big Brother)
who were picked for their respective All-Stars despite being totally
forgettable as personalities and players their original seasons.
Brian Smith
2007-03-07 08:30:28 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by CE Whisper
I don't know about Vito and Jill, but Mary, Mary, listen to me: my 70
something year old parents could
beat Kevin and Drew. They were not all star material, and the worst
casting choice of the show.
The term is "All Stars," not "Greatest Competitors Ever." Like them or
not, Kevin/Drew and David/Mary were "stars" during their seasons so that
qualifies them. Overall, I think they did a great job casting teams that
were very memorable, and most were solid competitors their first time out.
No real duds in the bunch, unlike Amber (Survivor) and Erika (Big Brother)
who were picked for their respective All-Stars despite being totally
forgettable as personalities and players their original seasons.
Amber totally forgettable in Survivor 2? Don't think so. She stood out right
away and obviously deserved to be in All Stars considering she won. I'll
agree with about Erika. But she got picked because that show can be so
psychologically brutal and mean spirited that some of the best players would
never agree to play again. Like the best BB player ever, Maggie Ausburn.

Brian
alooo
2007-03-07 09:35:26 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Amber totally forgettable in Survivor 2? Don't think so. She stood out
right away and obviously deserved to be in All Stars considering she won.
I'll agree with about Erika. But she got picked because that show can be
so psychologically brutal and mean spirited that some of the best players
would never agree to play again. Like the best BB player ever, Maggie
Ausburn.
I have to disagree with you on two things: Maggie, the best player in BB
history? I couldn't stand her but will concede she played a good game.
However, have you forgotten Will Kirby? That guy was not only the best
player in BB history, he was probably the best player in reality tv show
history. The other HG knew he was the best and he still managed to get to
fourth place in All Stars. That's quite a feat. If not for one little slip-
leaving Erika and Janelle alone to talk- he probably would have won the
whole thing again.

As for Amber, I really don't remember anything about her from Australia.
What did she do besides serve as Jerri's invisible sidekick?
bob wald
2007-03-07 13:03:12 UTC
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the best player in big brother history. now n furture is that blonde
girl from florida whos name i forget this second..lol
who won like 8 reward games....
i can picture her but lost her name.
that girl that won....uuggh. i hate her...
thinking she was above the average people.. like most police do. she
worked close with police....uugh.
i think her best friend she just met was a policeman.eric i think.
there was alil mexician girl that was lesbian. you could tell she wanted
her so bad..it was funny.
bob wald
2007-03-07 13:58:59 UTC
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janell..was her name.
most every girl hated her....
she was always causing fights...
edonline
2007-03-07 14:17:45 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Brian Smith
Amber totally forgettable in Survivor 2? Don't think so. She stood out
right away and obviously deserved to be in All Stars considering she won.
I'll agree with about Erika. But she got picked because that show can be
so psychologically brutal and mean spirited that some of the best players
would never agree to play again. Like the best BB player ever, Maggie
Ausburn.
I have to disagree with you on two things: Maggie, the best player in BB
history? I couldn't stand her but will concede she played a good game.
However, have you forgotten Will Kirby? That guy was not only the best
player in BB history, he was probably the best player in reality tv show
history. The other HG knew he was the best and he still managed to get to
fourth place in All Stars. That's quite a feat. If not for one little
slip- leaving Erika and Janelle alone to talk- he probably would have won
the whole thing again.
As for Amber, I really don't remember anything about her from Australia.
What did she do besides serve as Jerri's invisible sidekick?
Best player in Survivor hstory? I'm sorry but I have to go with Tom
Westman. Not only did he sweep the challenges, both individually and as
part of a team, but he resorted to very little backstabbing and trickery and
aslo seemed to a generally nice guy. His way of playing was demonstrated in
the final vote (I think only one person voted against him).
alooo
2007-03-08 03:25:57 UTC
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Post by edonline
Best player in Survivor hstory? I'm sorry but I have to go with Tom
Westman. Not only did he sweep the challenges, both individually and as
part of a team, but he resorted to very little backstabbing and trickery
and aslo seemed to a generally nice guy. His way of playing was
demonstrated in the final vote (I think only one person voted against
him).
I'm not sure why the names Maggie, Janelle, Will and Erika made you think we
were discussing the best player in Survivor history but since you piped
in...

Tom succeeded because of the people he played the game with. He was dumb to
show his cards so early and show them to be very strong. Any decent group of
players would have ensured he was gone by 8th or 9th place. Like most of the
winners on Survivor, he got to the end because of circumstances, not because
he was a particularly strong player. The only two winners who displayed the
sort of skills that probably would have gotten them to the end with almost
any group of players were Richard Hatch and Brian Heidick (sp).
Brian Smith
2007-03-07 18:23:05 UTC
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Post by alooo
Post by Brian Smith
Amber totally forgettable in Survivor 2? Don't think so. She stood out
right away and obviously deserved to be in All Stars considering she won.
I'll agree with about Erika. But she got picked because that show can be
so psychologically brutal and mean spirited that some of the best players
would never agree to play again. Like the best BB player ever, Maggie
Ausburn.
I have to disagree with you on two things: Maggie, the best player in BB
history? I couldn't stand her but will concede she played a good game.
However, have you forgotten Will Kirby? That guy was not only the best
player in BB history, he was probably the best player in reality tv show
history. The other HG knew he was the best and he still managed to get to
fourth place in All Stars. That's quite a feat. If not for one little
slip- leaving Erika and Janelle alone to talk- he probably would have won
the whole thing again.
I haven't forgotten Dr. Will at all. Yes, he was a great BB player. But you
have to admit that in BB2 he was fortunate to be part of the first group to
play under a new set of rules. By BB6 people were much more familiar with
the game and it was a lot harder to manipulate people. Given some of the HGs
in BB2, I don't think it was that much of a challenge for Will to manipulate
them. Plus, Dr. Will wanted to play the game. Don't forget that Maggie never
applied for the show and only did it because Eric asked her to. Also, the
way BB6 ended up going into the two separate 'teams' was another reason why
I consider Maggie to be the greatest player ever. She was stuck with some of
the biggest idiots to ever play the game. Just mentioning Jennifer's name
alone makes my point. The fact that Maggie somehow managed to control that
group and keep herself in the game is amazing. Especially given how the
other 'team' had some very good players.

In BB All Stars, Dr. Will clearly should have won. He was by far the best
player but as you pointed out that one little incident led to his downfall.
But he still did win a way given how he called so many of the shots and
paved the way for Boogie to win. But would either of them done as well as
they did had the truly best players agreed to play in All Stars? I highly
doubt it. They really benefited from having idiots like Howie in the game.
Post by alooo
As for Amber, I really don't remember anything about her from Australia.
What did she do besides serve as Jerri's invisible sidekick?
She was half decent at the relationship side of the game but definitely
didn't stick out as a personality like Big Tom from S3, which is the only
reason I think he was selected. But she did stand out for me and must have
stood out enough for MB for her to be considered for All Stars.

Brian
bob wald
2007-03-07 18:49:14 UTC
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will..is a stuck up. know nothing. spoiled rich baby boy...hes your
hereo? lol
''my views''.....i hope he finds a job ez enough.he can do.lol
bob wald
2007-03-07 18:46:40 UTC
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maggie did nothing...stayed outa fight with others is all she did. oh n
look down on people that wasnt doing a job she approved of.
they treated janell like trash..a waitress! uugghh.. she doesnt deserve
to have a plasma tv.lol like the 1 she won..was alot of peoples
opinion.i think.
you go....janell.LOL.
shawn
2007-03-07 20:06:59 UTC
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Post by bob wald
maggie did nothing...stayed outa fight with others is all she did. oh n
look down on people that wasnt doing a job she approved of.
they treated janell like trash..a waitress! uugghh.. she doesnt deserve
to have a plasma tv.lol like the 1 she won..was alot of peoples
opinion.i think.
you go....janell.LOL.
You know what struck me as so funny about that season is that one of
the people on that team that made fun of Janelle's job worked/works as
a waitress, Ivette. Then you have Beau and his job(s). Didn't seem to
me that anyone had any room to be making fun of other people's jobs.
The devisiveness of that season meant that whomever had the numbers
was likely to win. If James had not been acting so paranoid he and
Sarah would have been kept in the game and someone else would have
won. So Maggie should thank James and his wacky sense of paranoia.
bob wald
2007-03-07 20:21:29 UTC
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yeah..that game..with those..the teams were made up by thier incomes n
jobs..mainly.
dont know if any1 else noticed.
maggie n that other older blonde was very judgemental.
hated ivette n disliked janell.
they liked wil n his blonde side kick.guess they had money.
dont know how the felt about howey or the gay black guy.
but bet not lovin them.lol
Brian Smith
2007-03-08 00:28:53 UTC
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Post by bob wald
maggie did nothing...stayed outa fight with others is all she did. oh n
look down on people that wasnt doing a job she approved of.
they treated janell like trash..a waitress! uugghh.. she doesnt deserve
to have a plasma tv.lol like the 1 she won..was alot of peoples
opinion.i think.
you go....janell.LOL.
Sounds like you didn't watch the live feeds. She did a lot of manipulating
behind the scenes. How do you think she won the game? It sure wasn't because
she was a competition king.

And at times Janelle deserved to be treated like trash. You don't tell
people that you once threw fake money at homeless people and expect them to
treat you with respect. And it was Ivette that was jealous of Janelle
winning stuff, especially the call from a loved one. Of course Janelle
taking the call from Michael only gave Ivette more reason to hate her. Talk
about a dumb move on Janelle's part.

And people hated Maggie because they only either watched the game on TV
and/or were so blinded by their love for Kayser and those that were on his
side that they forgot to pay attention to how dumb and mean spirited his
side was. People just need to admit that Maggie essentially plotted their
downfall with one late night bathroom conversation with Howie. One of the
best BB moves of all time.

Brian
bob wald
2007-03-08 01:26:53 UTC
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brian i watched most of the show....n ivette is a lesbian..i think she
woulda took janelle to the end n quiet. if janelle would be her gf for
an 6 hour.lol
everytime ivette was talking about not liking janelle.she seemed to have
the biggest smile.
you really have no clue huh.
shawn
2007-03-08 02:52:53 UTC
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Post by bob wald
brian i watched most of the show....n ivette is a lesbian..i think she
woulda took janelle to the end n quiet. if janelle would be her gf for
an 6 hour.lol
everytime ivette was talking about not liking janelle.she seemed to have
the biggest smile.
you really have no clue huh.
Well, we know that Janelle see Ivette and Beau on a regular basis
since they all live in the same area in Miami Beach. I think Janelle
is closer to Beau than Ivette, but they seemed to get along fine once
they got out of the house. Only Eric and Maggie seem to really be
disliked by some of the houseguests.
Brian Smith
2007-03-08 05:31:11 UTC
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Post by bob wald
brian i watched most of the show....n ivette is a lesbian..i think she
woulda took janelle to the end n quiet. if janelle would be her gf for
an 6 hour.lol
everytime ivette was talking about not liking janelle.she seemed to have
the biggest smile.
you really have no clue huh.
You watched most of the show (i.e., the super edited 3 times per week TV
show) and you're telling me a don't have a clue? lol Bob, they play the game
24/7 for 80+ days (unless the season gets cut short). What you saw on TV was
manipulated to present a certain story and develop people's characters the
way Arnold and Allison want viewers to see them. If you want to know what
really happens on BB watch the feeds, especially later at night if possible.

And since you clearly didn't watch much of the show I'll let you know that
Ivette couldn't stand Janelle and she was crazy about Cappy.

Brian
bob wald
2007-03-08 10:23:15 UTC
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brian so you saying ivette wasn't lesbian?
i'm just saying i watched the show. i have some idea what happened.
no i dont say i know any of them personally.like you.
Brian Smith
2007-03-08 18:48:40 UTC
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Post by bob wald
brian so you saying ivette wasn't lesbian?
i'm just saying i watched the show. i have some idea what happened.
no i dont say i know any of them personally.like you.
No, I didn't say Ivette isn't gay. But she sure in the hell didn't like
Janelle. Remember she has (or had) a girlfriend she called Tush. Her Maggie.

Brian
Barbara L Sherrill
2007-03-08 20:47:35 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Post by bob wald
brian so you saying ivette wasn't lesbian?
i'm just saying i watched the show. i have some idea what happened.
no i dont say i know any of them personally.like you.
No, I didn't say Ivette isn't gay. But she sure in the hell didn't like
Janelle. Remember she has (or had) a girlfriend she called Tush. Her Maggie.
Brian
I can't believe I am jumping into this. Ivette admitted after moving into
the house she was gay. What's the issue?

Barbara
CE Whisper
2007-03-09 01:58:47 UTC
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On Mar 8, 11:47 am, "Barbara L Sherrill"
Post by Barbara L Sherrill
Post by Brian Smith
Post by bob wald
brian so you saying ivette wasn't lesbian?
i'm just saying i watched the show. i have some idea what happened.
no i dont say i know any of them personally.like you.
No, I didn't say Ivette isn't gay. But she sure in the hell didn't like
Janelle. Remember she has (or had) a girlfriend she called Tush. Her Maggie.
Brian
I can't believe I am jumping into this.
Barbara, you're acting the BQs! You clearly know better! ;)
Brian Smith
2007-03-09 06:08:12 UTC
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Post by Barbara L Sherrill
Post by Brian Smith
Post by bob wald
brian so you saying ivette wasn't lesbian?
i'm just saying i watched the show. i have some idea what happened.
no i dont say i know any of them personally.like you.
No, I didn't say Ivette isn't gay. But she sure in the hell didn't like
Janelle. Remember she has (or had) a girlfriend she called Tush. Her Maggie.
Brian
I can't believe I am jumping into this. Ivette admitted after moving into
the house she was gay. What's the issue?
Barbara
No issue as far as I'm concerned. She just happened to tell the others. If
she hadn't I don't think they would have known the way she was worshipping
Eric.

Ivette would never make it on TAR as on of their gay contestants. When TAR
picks gay people to be on the show they seem to go for the stereotypical gay
people. Not sure why this is or does the show just attract such people. Not
that I care. Some of favorite teams have been gay such as the Guidos and
Danny and Ozwald. I have to admit that I couldn't stand Alex and ? from S7.
I thought they were mean spirited pricks. I didn't like Patrick from that
season either because of his attitude. His mom should have slapped him
upside the head a few times the way he treated her.

Brian
bob wald
2007-03-09 08:28:00 UTC
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i think the bqs might be les....bet theres lots you wouldnt guess....
edonline
2007-03-08 14:02:43 UTC
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Post by Brian Smith
Post by bob wald
brian i watched most of the show....n ivette is a lesbian..i think she
woulda took janelle to the end n quiet. if janelle would be her gf for
an 6 hour.lol
everytime ivette was talking about not liking janelle.she seemed to have
the biggest smile.
you really have no clue huh.
You watched most of the show (i.e., the super edited 3 times per week TV
show) and you're telling me a don't have a clue? lol Bob, they play the
game 24/7 for 80+ days (unless the season gets cut short). What you saw on
TV was manipulated to present a certain story and develop people's
characters the way Arnold and Allison want viewers to see them. If you
want to know what really happens on BB watch the feeds, especially later
at night if possible.
And since you clearly didn't watch much of the show I'll let you know that
Ivette couldn't stand Janelle and she was crazy about Cappy.
Brian
I agree Brian. For being a lesbian, Ivette sure seemed like she had a major
crush on Cappy. In fact, in the finale, instead of rushing over to the gay
guy (sorry, forget his name), her self-proclaimed best friend in the House,
she ran over to Cappy. And the thigns she said about Janelle on the show
weren't nearly as bad as the things she said on the live feed which DIDN'T
make it on the air.
bob wald
2007-03-08 15:22:51 UTC
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you all seem to forget..janelle won every favorite in the house
contest....
thats why the other blonde broke down.n went on a rant about how could
a waitress beat her as favorite..janelles .has nothing. i have so
much.lol
along those lines..lol
ivette gave the game to maggie. even less liked ivette. i think.
ivette mighta been closer to janelle.
i can only hope ivette has a long empty life.
whens its close to the end.its every1 for themselfs.lol
LOL....Stupid//ditto a thousand times.
Brian Smith
2007-03-08 18:54:06 UTC
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Post by edonline
Post by Brian Smith
Post by bob wald
brian i watched most of the show....n ivette is a lesbian..i think she
woulda took janelle to the end n quiet. if janelle would be her gf for
an 6 hour.lol
everytime ivette was talking about not liking janelle.she seemed to have
the biggest smile.
you really have no clue huh.
You watched most of the show (i.e., the super edited 3 times per week TV
show) and you're telling me a don't have a clue? lol Bob, they play the
game 24/7 for 80+ days (unless the season gets cut short). What you saw
on TV was manipulated to present a certain story and develop people's
characters the way Arnold and Allison want viewers to see them. If you
want to know what really happens on BB watch the feeds, especially later
at night if possible.
And since you clearly didn't watch much of the show I'll let you know
that Ivette couldn't stand Janelle and she was crazy about Cappy.
Brian
I agree Brian. For being a lesbian, Ivette sure seemed like she had a
major crush on Cappy. In fact, in the finale, instead of rushing over to
the gay guy (sorry, forget his name), her self-proclaimed best friend in
the House, she ran over to Cappy. And the thigns she said about Janelle
on the show weren't nearly as bad as the things she said on the live feed
which DIDN'T make it on the air.
I believe you are referring to Beau, the gay black guy. Who also happened to
be her partner that season! And your comment about the live feeds is so
true. Bob really needs to learn not to rely on what they show us on the
three weekly TV episodes. BB6 was one mean season, probably worse than BB4.
Last year was very civilized compared to those two seasons.

Brian
bob wald
2007-03-08 19:55:22 UTC
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hate to break it to you..all those people in bb already knew 1 person
that was also in the house..before that bb started....
ivette n the gay black guy were good friends. In real life.
maggie i think already knew eric.
eric n that blonde guy that won.knew each other.
i forget alot. guess you know this. since you have all those online
feeds..lol
bob wald
2007-03-08 21:18:02 UTC
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meant wil n the blonde guy that won. knew each other.
Brian Smith
2007-03-09 06:01:50 UTC
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Post by bob wald
meant wil n the blonde guy that won. knew each other.
From All Stars you mean? They all sort of knew each other. Will and Mike are
business partners so of course they know each other. Not to mention that
they both were in BB2. And Will wouldn't do the show unless Mike was also
invited, etc.

Brian
Brian Smith
2007-03-09 06:00:05 UTC
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Post by bob wald
hate to break it to you..all those people in bb already knew 1 person
that was also in the house..before that bb started....
ivette n the gay black guy were good friends. In real life.
maggie i think already knew eric.
eric n that blonde guy that won.knew each other.
i forget alot. guess you know this. since you have all those online
feeds..lol
The viewers knew that everyone in BB6 had a partner. That was the twist for
that season. Didn't exactly take the teams all that long to figure it out
either. Only Howie and Rachel refused to admit for awhile that they were a
team.

Brian
alooo
2007-03-08 03:33:02 UTC
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going into the two separate 'teams' was another reason why I consider
Maggie to be the greatest player ever. She was stuck with some of the
biggest idiots to ever play the game. Just mentioning Jennifer's name
alone makes my point. The fact that Maggie somehow managed to control that
group and keep herself in the game is amazing. Especially given how the
other 'team' had some very good players.
That's exactly why she won- she was with a group of idiots. She had an idiot
like Howie helping her from the other side by taking out his own alliance
then she had a group of sheep to follow her every command. I think she did a
good job of handling those people but she never would have succeeded with a
group of strong-minded players.
But would either of them done as well as they did had the truly best
players agreed to play in All Stars? I highly doubt it. They really
benefited from having idiots like Howie in the game.
Will worked EVERYBODY in that house. They all knew he was a major liar and
they all knew he was a great player yet they still trusted him. It wasn't
just the idiots, it was everybody. That guy is a very gifted manipulator and
I consider that to be the most beneficial skill in games like BB and
Survivor.
She was half decent at the relationship side of the game but definitely
didn't stick out as a personality like Big Tom from S3, which is the only
reason I think he was selected. But she did stand out for me and must have
stood out enough for MB for her to be considered for All Stars.
Did you think she was hot in Australia? Because perhaps that's why she
stands out for you. I can remember things that almost every cast member from
her season did but not one statement or action from Amber stands out to me.
Refresh my memory if you've got a good one.
Brian Smith
2007-03-08 04:24:17 UTC
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Post by alooo
going into the two separate 'teams' was another reason why I consider
Maggie to be the greatest player ever. She was stuck with some of the
biggest idiots to ever play the game. Just mentioning Jennifer's name
alone makes my point. The fact that Maggie somehow managed to control
that group and keep herself in the game is amazing. Especially given how
the other 'team' had some very good players.
That's exactly why she won- she was with a group of idiots. She had an
idiot like Howie helping her from the other side by taking out his own
alliance then she had a group of sheep to follow her every command. I
think she did a good job of handling those people but she never would have
succeeded with a group of strong-minded players.
Howie helped her but he didn't know he was helping her. He did eventually
after people like Rachel got through to him but much too late. That's why
Maggie was such a great player.
Post by alooo
But would either of them done as well as they did had the truly best
players agreed to play in All Stars? I highly doubt it. They really
benefited from having idiots like Howie in the game.
Will worked EVERYBODY in that house. They all knew he was a major liar and
they all knew he was a great player yet they still trusted him. It wasn't
just the idiots, it was everybody. That guy is a very gifted manipulator
and I consider that to be the most beneficial skill in games like BB and
Survivor.
Yes, Will did work everybody but he forgot to control them at all times.
That is where Maggie gets the nod over him as best player ever in my
opinion. Will got to cocky at the end.

I still think that if people like Alison hadn't come out so strong right
away and if they had better players Will never would have lasted to 4th
place with his strategy. Last year had too many players who clearly didn't
want to play or didn't belong there. People like Diane, Nik, Jase, Howie and
even Kaysar.
Post by alooo
She was half decent at the relationship side of the game but definitely
didn't stick out as a personality like Big Tom from S3, which is the only
reason I think he was selected. But she did stand out for me and must
have stood out enough for MB for her to be considered for All Stars.
Did you think she was hot in Australia? Because perhaps that's why she
stands out for you. I can remember things that almost every cast member
from her season did but not one statement or action from Amber stands out
to me. Refresh my memory if you've got a good one.
Guess that depends on your definition of hot. She's definitely very good
looking and doesn't seem to think she's above people because of her looks,
which is something I find attractive. As for particular stuff she did or
said in Survivor Australia, I'd really have to think about it. I'd actually
have to really think a lot about what most of them did in most seasons. For
some reason Alicia's blowing up at Kimmie (sp?) over the friggin' chickens
all of a sudden comes to mind!

Brian
CE Whisper
2007-03-07 16:10:46 UTC
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Post by CE Whisper
I don't know about Vito and Jill, but Mary, Mary, listen to me: my 70
something year old parents could
beat Kevin and Drew. They were not all star material, and the worst
casting choice of the show.
The term is "All Stars," not "Greatest Competitors Ever." Like them or not,
Kevin/Drew and David/Mary were "stars" during their seasons so that
qualifies them.
We differ on what 'all star' means. No big deal.
I never saw David/Mary as stars of that show.

Kevin/Drew were great on their episode. They are still the worst
choice for this show.
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